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  • smisachu
    08-04 04:42 PM
    See what I mean. More than stat-arb, the HFT programs keep looking for pattrens in order flow and front run them. Thats why you have lattice trading and when a fund wants to sell a big block, they dont even go to the exchanges. they pick up the phone and call someone "upstairs"


    SEC moving toward banning flash orders - Yahoo! Finance (http://finance.yahoo.com/news/SEC-moving-toward-banning-apf-1986666746.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=2&asset=&ccode=)





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  • walking_dude
    11-14 02:39 PM
    Thanks my friend. I knew I could count on you :)

    WD, I am with you on this.

    I am even going to call the radio and ask the same thing you have put in that letter if they ignore my emails.





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  • pappu
    01-10 07:53 PM
    I have been a IV member since 2006 . I have seen the ups/downs . donated money , sent letters , attended rallies and done whatever has been been proposed . But I see that many senior members who had the drive to motivate people are not sending or being part of any messages or threads at all and that is exactly why the movement seems to be losing steam .

    The standard response that I see to any question is "have you donated money ? " . "Don't ask for anything till you have donated. " this is followed by some some red dots which normally works to silence the questions. People will be willing to donate when they believe in the movement . I remember we collected $ 30,000 in 1 month before the rally there was huge thread with all the donations . People were charged up and the money came up automatically . I am willing to donate but to be brutally honest I do not see the same level of motivation as was there in 2006 / 2007 days .Please use this as a wakeup call and not as reason to vent your frustration on me .

    There are many senior members who I do not even see any more . Members joining in late 2007 or early 2008 will not know any of these guys .

    Aman Kapoor . He is the founder of IV . I have not seen his messages since the past 3 years almost . Where is he ? Is it too much for him to send a greeting in New years eve motivating the members ? It takes just 2 minutes .

    Mark Bartosik :- He was supposed to the spokesperson for IV .The guy with the MasterCard sign for immigration . I have not seen him for quite some time now
    Where are the other senior leaders like
    a) Walden Pond
    b) There was a this British Girl from San Jose ( had a handle which had name like Rose or something )
    c) Niloufer Bustani from Dallas. I see her once in a while but very sparingly .

    The others even I have forgotten completely.

    The only leadership/core that I see is Pappu and no one else . If you have a country where the prime minister shows his face only once in 4 years , how are the people supposed to believe in that movement ? Please don't reply with a message saying what have I done or why can't I contribute money ? I have done that I am looking for leadership to show us the way and motivate us . All campaigns don't need money donations( Letters , calls , faxes etc ) . We could start with that and then drum up support and momentum and then the money will start flowing in automatically . There has to be a synchronized campaign organized by the leadership and all I see is everybody putting their eggs in the basket called spillover.

    IV core team is very active and working hard. Just because we do not see their posts on the forum does not mean they are not active. Aman Kapoor or Waldenpond- IV founder is very much active and working hard on this mission despite having his greencard. We have regular daily discussions as a team and he is one person I have seen who sleeps, drinks and live this effort all the time. He has spent his personal money to travel to DC and still takes time off from work to travel to DC on regular basis. Likewise there are others who are committed to this effort and are working hard on the tasks assigned to them. You see me most of the time writing on the forum because in the core team, this is the task assigned to me. I communicate with members. If we have everyone posting on the forum, it will not be a good use of our limited time off work on daily basis. Also know that IV is not forums. Just by writing on the forums, nothing ever gets done on the hill. There are several tasks that we have to do in this advocacy effort to get something done. You can see more regular updates on the donor forum on what we do behind the scenes. It takes lot of effort, commitment and patience to be active in this effort because results are not immediate or guaranteed. But with our efforts we have have had our successes and we are positive about the future successes. The key is to be consistent, persistent and passionate about this advocacy work. We need to understand that we as an organization represent hundreds of thousands of people suffering due to the broken immigration system despite following all the rules and being legal in this country. This long wait has caused lot of pain and suffereing in people's lives and careers. Everyday we feel the pressure of hopes of thousands of our members who look upto us with some ray of light. As leaders of this organization we carry this responsibility bravely every day on our shoulders and feel motivated from the support of our members and the passion we have for this cause.





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  • willwin
    06-10 03:03 PM
    Finished calling all reps..

    I think we should post this on the home page in IV Announcements section.

    I have this doubt too.

    Leaving VM might make sense. But what about leaving message with a person? Does it really do any good?



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  • trueguy
    08-25 04:41 PM
    Yes, AFAIK the FB spillover is added to the base quota and then divided between the ranks. At least I hope DoS and USCIS don't mess up with this calculation.

    BTW: Where were you able to find this information?


    its clearly written in Sep'2008 bulletin. However, seems like EB3-I wont' get any of it and all numbers will be given to EB2. we loose again.





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  • chicago60607
    09-17 11:33 AM
    Lofgren is offering managers amendment (which includes a comprise with Mr.King and minorities). THIS IS for HR6020 NOT for HR5882. We are NEXT.



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  • arrarrgee
    07-17 02:53 PM
    I agree with you immi...I would love to have that but i believe its not practical...coz as per existing laws there are 140k employement visas alloted per year...if you are gonna use uncaptured visas from the previous years then this number would be >140k.. which would require a change in the law...with the current govt in power (inspite of the President being pro immigration),Iraq war,elections,Anti immigration sentiments before elections,etc..i donot foresee it happeneing anytime soon... my $0.02

    Lets ask Core not to just go with the temporary fix of July visa bulliten.
    We might apply for EAD and AP but what if they throw our papers some where and repeat the same thing.
    This time they will be very careful in issuing visa bulliten

    In future very slow progression in visa dates...adjudicating cases very slowly always stating that due to july visa bulliten we have lots of cases ...we will not be able to do anything until we sort ou...blah blah...

    This is not the fix
    We should be firm with our goals...

    Lets come up with some ideas....
    Lets not ask what to do...lets think and come up with an idea...and then we shall decide if it works or not...
    When some one first suggested flower campaign everyone took it as a joke...it was not implemented before some one sent the flowers and showed the receipt number...

    I was following core for a long time...this the biggest response i have ever seen from the members...

    Lets continue it...

    My idea ...lets not just accept the temporary fix...we should fight the congress until they come up with a plan of fixing the GC issue.

    The congress talks about fixing illegal immigration..Lets ask them to fix the legal immigration first.

    Unless we are really strong about it...nothing can be accomplished..

    They cant fix the existing legal system but they are ready with the plans of fixing illegal immigration...of course it failed but still they had big impact...





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  • walking_dude
    03-13 12:49 PM
    I, for one, am unable to join a state chapter, because , the nearest chapter is 400 miles and 2 states away. What good would it do to me to join something that I can never be part of. I wanted to start a state chapter here in my place, but I couldnt find any useful resources on how to do it. May be eb3_nepa has some reasons like it.

    I was also unable to find a state chapter just a few months back. So I started one. Now we have around 60 members. Someone needs to take the initiative and set the ball rolling. That someone can be you.

    Here's an excellent resource on how to start a state chapter.

    http://anilgeneral.blogspot.com/2007/10/how-to-start-and-maintain-state-chapter.html


    The Admin Fixes letter campaign was a good initiative. But, the target date got moved twice, and now I dont even know when the end date is.


    The end date is the date when the fixes get passed.

    IV moved the target dates to get more letters from members. It paid back richly as thousands more letters were got through the hardwork of volunteers who collected these letters. As pointed by paskal work is in progress on the campaign and more stuff is getting done.



    May be IV should be a top-down organization. Any organization as big as IV would probably be better served with a Top Team. That team could probably elected by the community. I am confident, that most of our members wouldnt even mind spending a few extra bucks to pay a honarary amount to this team for their efforts and time. Then there will be more structure and accountability and action going on around here.


    If you really think you can get someone like Aman Kapoor - who visited DC 18 times last year spending 60k of his personal money - by paying a few extra bucks, be my guest!

    IV is a volunteer organization. Its strength is volunteers who believe in the cause and ready to spend their efforts and money for a cause that benefits not only them, but also the slackers who do nothing and sit on the forum badmouthing/belittling those who do.

    A paid person will not do all that for you for the few extra bucks you are ready to pay.


    I came to know about IV pretty late. When I did learn about IV and joined IV, I was a very enthusiastic participant. Of late, I do believe IV is fading away. I dont see so many activities going on around here. Like eb3_nepa and few others said, IV is right now becoming just another Immigration portal. It is starting to lose its identity.

    After doing all the hard work to gather a mass or like minded people, it will be shameful, if IV drifts away from its stated aim. So, may be it is time for every member, including core members like you to refect upon things and come up with ways to make this organization more transparent and more accessible for people like me.


    Don't judge IV by what's posted on the forum. IV is more than a forum. A lot of action happens off the forum (in fact most of it). Like Morpheus told Neo in Matrix, 'No one can tell you what it is. You need to experience it yourself'. Participating actively in IV activities through state chapters is the only way to know all IV activities happening.

    It will never get posted here in a forum full of anti-immigrant trolls. IV is transparent in its finances as it gets audited as a tax-exempt organization and held accountable to its expenses. Transparency is bi-directional. IV expects its members seeking updates to be transparent too (by providing complete contact details and valid E-mail ids). When a large number of members aren't transparent themselves, asking IV to be transparent is a moot point.



    Like Waldenpond said, it is probably not wise to list all the items going on in the portal. The work around to that would be, we can add another membership type which is more restrictive. This membership group will have only members whose identities have been verified. Once this group is created, IV can post all the happenings accessible to them. This will help people like me who are unable to be part of any state chapter to know what is happening at IV. Keep our sprits high.



    Sorry to be blunt here. IVs aim is to motivate members to participate in the activities and achieve the goal. Keeping spirits high for everyone is not a part of the deal.

    Creation of such a value-added paid membership was discussed earlier. Most of the IV members don't want it. So it didn't happen.



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  • dallasdude
    05-13 11:05 AM
    This might come as a surprise to some of you, but someone needs to say it out loud. GET A LIFE FOLKS!!!! there is more to life then EB, GC and all. it seem all we desi's can think of is how to get a green card so we can live here with peace and never have to worry bout getting laid off or anything.

    Few points:

    1) having gc is a privilege not a right.

    2) US has every right to choose whom they want to have in their country.

    3) If getting PR or citizenship of a western country is the goal there are many countries which have a fair point based system.

    4) Considering the number of fraud's committed by Indian body shoppers and people who use them, i am not surprised USCIS is extra careful when it comes to Indian applications. Anyone who got his wife with no exp with software dev an h1b visa from some cheat in Jersey knows what i am talking bout . My freind got his wife an H1 after showing she knew software testing even though her major was fine arts and all she was good at was web surfing :)

    5) have a back up. i came here in 2001 as student and have seen it all. I am on h1b since 2004. i knew we have too many people whose sole aim in life is a American GC. to avoid becoming one of those who check processing dates first thing in morning, i applied for Canadian PR, got it in 8 months and i am not even gonna bother applying for labor, i-140 and all those precious life controlling documents.

    Wake up friends, you have options. Don't let your life depend on you application status.

    Nitin

    I'm proud of you. Very well said indeed. Just ignore the haters.





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  • gccovet
    11-07 04:30 PM
    I dumped H1B, and even renewing EAD myself. Keep on giving I9 form.

    This helps me to keep interaction at the minimum with Desi Employer.

    Mr. Dhundhun,
    If you have not done so, please, whenever you get a chance do send those 4 letters:


    All who are planning to use AC21 or already switched job using AC21 (using EAD). Following is very important:

    If you think you are immune, think twice, especially if you are making an investment (American Dream) by buying house, please read the following, help keep your dream intact....


    check out http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=22182



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  • alisa
    02-13 07:30 PM
    A lot of people, including me have lost faith in IV. They are not going to pay. We don't know what IV is working on


    I believe the core group has made efforts to let us know what they are working on. Obviously, we shouldn't expect them to give us a daily update. That would be quite stupid.


    and we don't believe it can do anything. The sooner IV accepts it, the better. I have seen this personally in talking to people and you can see the evidence with less than 300 people contributing. IV needs to produce results first.


    I think this has also been addressed here in different threads. IV cannot, just by itself, get congress to pass pro-immigration laws. However, it can influence the senate/congress to add pro-EB provisions to pro-immigration laws.

    If you think that with 8000 members, and 300 contributing members, you can have the congress/senate pass pro-EB laws, you are grossly mistaken.


    IV needs to figure out other ways to generate cash if it thinks that would help. One way would be advertising on the site. I think IV has built this website well and it is an asset it needs to use NOW. I believe IV can charge up to $10,000 a day for advertising on the website. That would be $300,000/month or $3.6 million a year. Even $3000/day would result in over $1 million. That should not be very difficult to do.

    Great idea.
    Except, nobody is going to pay 10K/day to advertise on this site.
    For a group that can't generate more than 4k-5k per month (200 contributions times 20) for something that it desperately needs, it would be an absolute travesty of common-sense for a business, to invest 300K per month in advertising to such a group.

    Keep in mind the following two equations.
    Membership+funding+lobbying+patience = Chance of success
    Sitting on our butts = Guaranteed failure

    BTW, I would also like to point out the antiwar website again.
    They are doing a funding drive.

    On day 1 of their funding drive, 117 people gave a total of 5312 dollars.
    Their goal is 70K for this quarter. And they hope to raise that money in one week. After this week, they will again ask for funding in the next quarter.
    Obviously they have a HUGE membership compared to IV. But that just underscores the need for increasing membership.





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  • Bush
    02-13 04:25 PM
    I realize that there is no point in telling you guys anything. When you don't have an open mind, you can not accept the facts. It's like banging your heads against steel wall. When you are not even ready to diagnose the disease, there is little hope you will be able to cure it. Denial is a beautiful thing.

    So I apologize for my comments.

    Here is something you will love:
    Congratulations IV and the core team! Keep up the good work.


    Please dont bang your head on the wall.The wall will break.Please dont apologize.If you really mean it can you please start actively participating in activities which will help everybody.I dont mean that you have to be with IV forum.I know that you are disillusioned with the IV forum.You can take some responsibility and start educating the law makers and people who are in your area.You can do this on your individual capacity you need not represent any forum.This will benefit everybody including ,you ,me and lot of other people who are undergoing this pain.

    We have to all work together to achieve our goals whether you are in IV forum or not.



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  • starscream
    09-17 10:25 AM
    as well as on the chat also please thanks





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  • jonty_11
    07-10 11:44 AM
    I can trust this guy because of his recent past blogs which turned true.

    Can i celebrate? I want to.
    no one can celebrate unless u get GC in hand...



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  • vamsi_poondla
    11-06 03:44 PM
    In reality, many companies who have subsidiaries abroad can use L1 visa program. But H1B offers flexibility that is much desired by many companies. (It is very less abused compared to H1B). No numerical cap on L1B may not go well with many of us. But I am very +ve that the visas are not issued in anticipatory mode like H1B. And why do companies spend 5K if they do not want to get the worker here? Do they like waste money just like that?

    Logically this highlights the real problem in the system - numerical caps. If the caps are not there and companies can get a visa-on demand, they will not spend 5K per visa on anticipatory mode. Because there is no need to do that.

    So no system is perfect. We have to minimize abuse and act responsibly when it comes to sensitive issues like immigration...





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  • arindamb
    03-13 04:41 PM
    Looks like they have moved the link from the website ? I hope things will not change.



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  • rheoretro
    09-14 09:24 AM
    Point 1: We need to target news media here in the US primarily, not abroad. All good publicity is welcome, though. Please see a new thread started today by one of the moderators called "Ideas to increase Publicity of IV." There are key action items outlined there that every member can help out with.

    Point 2: What will be shared (and with whom) will be decided soon by the core group. We used to send out regular updates, but that has suffered lately because we are all volunteers and some volunteers who were in charge of it are tied down with other things at work and home.

    Point 3: We are already talking to people in academia and the academies.


    Point 4: No member is "discounted." All are welcome, but we really need non-paying members to start chipping in money. What people decide to contribute is their business, and entirely theirs. Whether it is $20 or $50 or $100 or $500...that is entirely the call of the individual. This activity is not cheap, rather it requires a steady cash flow. We are obligated under the laws to hire a CPA and everything will be handled and accounted for.

    Hi rheoretro,

    First of all I commend your and everyone in putting their effort. I totally agree with you that we need more people and money. I think people are first to come and money will automatically follow.

    While word-of-mouth is effective we can augment this to get attention using other means:

    1. We can persuade news portals to advertise for our cause in a corner that might help us to get more people. Most Indians I know read Indian news everyday. If we can convince e.g., eenadu.net a telugu newspaper, to run ads we can get attention of lot people.

    2. Please start selling the current acheivements that are not confidential. Like you might have been successful in persuading a high profile senator about this problem. Put his quotes on our site and also possible grab attention from bloggers.

    3. If we can also tap academia who support skilled immigration that would help us. Let us put there studies in our reference section (I am assuming we didn't do this yet). This
    makes senator to reference our site and make their lives easy.

    4. Please do not discount freewill members who do not have a GC problem but savor
    helping others with immigration problem. It could be Americans or Immigrants we'll get them all in.

    I think these actions will help us grow our strength. I know it is easy said than done. I will send a mail to rediff and eenadu to put our banner on their frontpage. If anyone has contacts working for these website. That will make it whole lot easier.

    -Kishore.





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  • needhelp!
    09-24 07:08 PM
    There have been a lot of updates sent out via the verified state chapter mailing lists. If you are not part of any state chapter please check this page http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=72&Itemid=52 and if there is no state chapter for your state, you can request to become member of a neighboring state chapter.

    http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=286606
    I know the post was entirely wrong and foolish.

    But I feel that I am in the dark about IV activities for the past one year.
    I am one of the silent IV Supporters and long time (from the beginning) monthly contributing IV Member.

    It would be better to have a special thread/monthly bulleting page from IV to tell the members to know about IV activities or progress.

    After the last year July fiasco issue I have not seen any posting about IV activities on the web site other than lot of threads and could not able to figure out the work IV is exactly doing.

    I strongly believe because of IV core team only we were able to come through successful in July 2007 Bulletin issue. But do not know what else is IV doing for the past 12 months.

    The Flowers, Letters and Phone Calls is not working as we expect. I do not know about other activities other than sending letters and phones during every congress session.

    I believe IV need to do some thing different. There is no media reports about legal immigration issue (not for IV) for the past one year.

    My perspective is that we need to find a way that Media and Public will aware of the issues we face every day.
    I am not questioning the IV Core Team. It would be great if the IV members know some details about IV activities every month in a bulletin or thread etc.

    Thanks
    vselvam





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  • english_august
    07-12 10:00 PM
    This is the press release prepared with help from the Core. Please send it out to your friends, journalists and other contacts.

    http://www.touchdownusa.org/SanJose/SanJoseRallyPR.pdf

    Best of Luck for the rally.





    zoozee
    12-13 12:46 PM
    Yes' Paid membership for IV is definitely a good idea.

    Regards.





    map_boiler
    07-11 12:21 PM
    "Dear XXX: We were informed yesterday afternoon, during our teleconference with AILA, that it was confirmed by the Immigration Service that they are not rejecting/returning any cases received by Monday July 2, 2007. Your application was included in the early Monday delivery of packets marked for Saturday delivery so it will be retained by the Immigration Service while they make a decision on whether or not to reverse themselves on the filing deadline.

    I will keep you posted as to any new developments on your case. You will also be receiving our Breaking News online notices advising you of any new changes. If you are not already receiving our newsletter, please let me know I will ask our secretary to add you to our e-mail list."



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