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  • JazzByTheBay
    07-09 07:51 PM
    I think the developments are great!!! USCIS secretary Emilio Gonzalez posting a message on the USCIS web site - this is GREAT NEWS!!! What we're doing is being acknolwedged!! It's a sign that this is working, and those up there are forced to take notice and act on it....

    It may have sounded ridiculous initially, but GANDHIGIRI seems to be working even in our case!! Some times you have to think unconventionally, out of the box (to use a much abused and cliched term), innovatively, to get the kind of results you want.

    Nobody thought sending flowers would change the hearts of USCIS/Dept of State.... and they would somehow agree to accept our AOS applications...

    The fact is, this development means we're getting the deserved attention, imho. Can that can be anything but good news... ?

    Kudos to whoever thought of this.... lage raho munnabhai... :)

    jazz


    Sure lets donate our KIDNEYS next!! This whole campaign sounds more and more ridiculous!!





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  • sam2006
    01-08 10:37 AM
    my letter is on its way

    will reach by next week .. great goin IV





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  • chanduv23
    11-02 10:15 PM
    whats hte next step

    ilikekilo and other friends,
    please contact itisnotfunny - send a PM - to volunteer for further steps. Thanks for all the help





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  • pappu
    10-18 10:32 AM
    More info
    http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/privacy/privacy_pia_uscis_bcs.pdf



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  • akela_topchi
    08-07 01:47 PM
    Excellent points!!

    Sunnysurya,

    I am not arguing or obstinately stating my view. I am genuinely confused.

    I am not sure how it is unfair on EB2. Didn't these folks apply for GC before us legally and stand in line sincerely (no labor subs) AND gather pertinent work exp and education?

    I understand you are working on getting the numbers. I would wait to hear from you with those numbers.

    It is one thing to feel wronged seeing a few examples of people abusing the porting but quite another to have a lawsuit alleging that this is a widespread activity and it is causing grievous delays for the ones waiting in EB2. I really don't believe it and feel it is insulting to a large majority of highly skilled and hard working immigrants who have/will legally port their EB3 PDs to EB2.

    Regards.





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  • satish_hello
    01-10 10:56 PM
    We have to pond this letter to every oneLike who is in Primary.

    Thisis debatable issue, since it is about legal Immigrant.If we 500 thousand of us can do it , we have to pound the fax, then only it can be heard.

    Nancy Pelosi
    Senate Majority Leader - Reid
    John Kerry
    John McCain
    Barag Obama
    Senator Clinton.
    Hucabee
    Sen. Edward

    To All the important Senators.

    Change we believe in , we can make change (steeled from Obama - kidding).

    Please let us know how do we get those all the fax number.


    Regards
    satish



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  • Saralayar
    01-15 07:47 PM
    I thinks its a better idea to post URL for your idea.
    Till now I do not see any one voted up for this. It is very sad that our own community is not supporting this. If you are not able to search for it in change.gov, give the complete title and see.
    Citizenship if you have lived legally in this Country for 10 years continuously (http://citizensbriefingbook.change.gov/ideas/viewIdea.apexp?id=087800000004wel)

    Guys Vote... Vote ... for us, for our kids....





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  • SunnySurya
    08-07 04:09 PM
    Thank you. I am not worried about the three companies I know of , I am worried about other 3000 companies that I don't know of.
    I also beleive, it is not the companies that are evil. It is the system that provides the incentive. And I am trying to take away that incentive.

    First: I appreciate that you have not lost your cool yet despite all the opposition and rude posts against you. We will not close the thread as long as the discussion remains civil.

    While I personally do not support the lawsuit idea because it divides the community in two parts and there are better ways to help the community. You can try to help positively for the greater good for everyone or run a negative campaign that will help some but hurt others who are also like you and are genuinely following the law. I also think it will be expensive and may not have a lifeline. As IV members we need to all work together to fix the system. This was the basis of founding IV. The aim was never to look after our own selfish interests and hurt others who are like us. We never discriminated between different EB categories or country of changeability. The intent of our fight is not to deny others their greencards and get ours first, but to allow everyone get their greencards. The intent is to have the system be efficient and work the way it was intended. IV core team has never made action items or ask lists in campaigns to suit their own selfish needs.

    Now in this post you have raised a serious issue. If a fraud is going on, do collect evidence and file a complaint against it. If consulting companies are making money by gaming the system, drag those companies in your complaint. Help punish such people who are gaming the system. IV community will appreciate that.

    There is some wisdom needed here to draw a line between selfishness and working with honest intentions to clean up the system.



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  • santb1975
    11-17 01:02 AM
    Does anyone have a count?





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  • BharatPremi
    03-25 04:41 PM
    The employer will come up with many excuses to not interview a candidate or hire. If the law doesn't allow you to discriminate when hiring based on national origin or EAD or whatever, rejecting candidates even for an interview doesn't make sense.

    Interview is part of the hiring and recruiting processes. Would you say employers putting a job ad saying we will only interview someone from a particular nationality is allowed?

    However, the more important point is we are fighting to get multi-year EAD in IV among other things. The law doesn't allow discrimination based on EAD for hiring. Let the govt lawyers and employers figure it out if not even interviewing candidates because of EAD comes under the purview of hiring or not and if it is legal or not.

    yes, that is our line of logic and understanding. But seeing the number of experiences what we are having in real world, this does not seem to be applying. You are rightaway asked about your work status and they insist till you give them "specific" word - either "GC" or "Citizenship" or "EAD"... If this would have been the real way ( I and all of us wishes that) the these recruiting guys may not dare to insist till you spit the speific word out and that is before interviewing. In my experience, I always had verbal conversation. I have never been sent an email or letter by any company yet regarding their refusal not to even interview me based on EAD. Verbally 5 companies have starightaway told me "they are not considering me as I do not have green card yet - EAD is not enough". My thinking is that they do this because somehow some law may be covering them, we do not know that but they know that, perhaps..:confused:



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  • grupak
    09-09 03:49 PM
    Call everyone.

    I just finished calling everyone (except the cosponsors) from the list. Two more representatives from the list are supporting it.





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  • suriajay12
    03-11 09:00 AM
    My company is checking with some contacts how to push the idea. Recently we contacted competeamerica.org.

    Nil,
    Look at my reds. I gave you green and I used to have 2 greens at that time. Man, these guys dont want us to give any ideas. They just want us to wait till economy picks up..
    With these two reds, I cannoit continue on this forum site anymore.. good bye guys..

    OR.......

    I dont care.. who cares these reds anyways.. Do the right thing.. We get reds all the time at work, game and everyhere.. I failed in two subjects in my 8th grade and lost a year.. Now I did my PhD from a top school in US.. Dont get cowed down..
    These reds are sometimes to discourage efforts by some people whose interests differ from ours. I am not mad at anyone..
    "Aage bado"..
    But please someone give me some greens.. looks like I cannot green anyone unless I have some myself..



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  • SunnySurya
    08-07 01:26 PM
    You stand is understandable, but I still will urge you to join me. It is of course not illegal but unfair towards the people already in EB2 line. If there were no limits on visas, it will not have been an issue to begin with. Think about the depth of the issue.
    Hi SunnySurya an Rolling_flood,

    I am EB2 and have a Masters but I don't support your case or even the basis of it. Mostly it is because I don't think MOST of the folks who use PD porting are doing it illegally or even cutting through the line undeservedly. If I am not wrong, these folks will have put in the time (work exp wise and/or added higher education) and should rightfully get the position certified as EB2.

    Now granted that there are always a small minority people who genuinely are not deserving. First, can you define in your view what kind of PD porting is unethical?

    Additionally, can you back up your claims by providing any kind of stats of such cases per year and how much impact it really causes to the GC wait time of those already waiting in queue for EB2? Are they that significant for you and Rolling Stone to feel so wronged?

    In conclusion, unlike the unjust labor substitution process, your case is not convincing because I don't think most people availing PD porting are doing anything wrong legally and ethically. I would love to see stats and examples though.

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  • Saralayar
    01-08 01:08 AM
    I am surprised to see this thread active this long. Earlier I have with help of Saralayar and other members have bring this point to attention. But at that time no one was supporting Idea.

    I see increasing support for the Idea as GC journey become longer and longer.

    Earlier I have pointed following points that I want to bring to remind if we want to get real support for this idea of early CITIZENSHIP AFTER GREEN CARD

    (1) I-140 and I-485 must be approved.

    (@) Time should be considered only after getting GC

    (3) For getting closer for political support our proposal should be close to Existing laws for FAMILY BASED and MARRIAGE BASED CITIZENSHIPS

    So we should argur that if YOU HAVE MASTER AND ABOVE IN STEM FILEDS YOu can get CITIZEN SHIP 5 yrs from date of Approval of I-140 ( which make it closer to fmaily based) and THREE YEARS from Date of Approval of I-485 (closer to marriage based citizens). You can get earlier of two . But when you get Citizenship your I-485 must be approved for ATLEAST 1 year.

    The above requirements can get closer to Marriage and family based and also help 90% of IV members.

    Adding the clause for the EDUCATIONAL THING might be able to get more political support also

    Thanks
    Core IV can consolidate the valueable points like this for the argument.



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  • pdakwala
    02-01 10:04 AM
    1. Legislation: The Future of Employment-Based Immigration during the next few weeks, Congress is scheduled to decide the future of
    employment-based immigration to the United States.

    Comprehensive immigration reform proposals by Senators McCain and
    Kennedy, Cornyn and Kyl, Hagel and Specter will be considered by the Senate in February.

    Each proposal contains a combination of the following elements: (1) a
    guest worker program; (2) stricter immigration enforcement; and (3) an
    expansion of the employment-based immigration system.

    The guest worker program is, by far, the most controversial part of the
    package. To President Bush and its Congressional proponents, a guest
    worker proposal is simply a way of creating a procedure to allow U.S.
    companies to continue to employ millions of foreign-born workers to fill jobs which American choose not to perform.

    Opponents of a guest worker program maintain that if employers simply
    raise their wages, American workers will do any job. Call me a "doubter".
    Our unemployment rate has been hovering around 5% for over a year. Yet,
    the Wall Street Journal recently ran an article about lettuce growers who,
    unable to harvest their crops, raised their rates to over $10 per hour. A few
    Americans applied, but none lasted more than a few hours. How many of the
    unemployed are willing and able to perform stoop labor in rural valleys?

    The opponents of a guest worker program refuse to vote for any program
    which looks like an "amnesty". Chairman James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) of the
    Subcommittee on Immigration in the House of Representatives puts it
    simply: "A guest-worker program that applies to illegal aliens already here is an amnesty." Representative Sensenbrenner and over one hundred Republican Congressman in the House of Representatives are against any "amnesty". Since Chairman Sensenbrenner will be the chief House negotiator in any Senate-House Conference Committee on an immigration reform bill, this spells trouble for any guest worker program.

    If the guest worker program does not include the 10 million plus
    illegal workers who are presently in the U.S., there is not the slightest
    possibility of either regularizing their immigration status or of deporting them.
    That is simply a fact, and building a huge fence on Mexico's border (no one
    ever suggests doing so along the Canadian border) with the U.S. will simply
    discourage illegal workers in the U.S. from returning home to visit
    their families. Also, it does nothing to stem the influx of illegal workers
    who enter the U.S. with visas and then overstay. Those in Congress who
    think that by criminalizing these people the problem is solved are kidding
    themselves and their constituents.

    The real solution is to look reality square in the face, and fashion a
    solution which will penalize illegal workers, but, at the same time, allow them
    to participate in a guest worker program that will eventually result in
    them becoming permanent residents of the U.S. Unless there is a light at
    the end of the tunnel for them, what is the incentive for them to come out of the shadows and register for the program? The McCain-Kennedy bill contains such a program.

    At least one ex-INS prosecutor (The one who writes this newsletter)
    knows that the government cannot solve the illegal alien problem by wishing it away, or by an enforcement-only approach. Ten years after President Clinton enacted a "get tough" at the border policy, the number of illegal workers in the U.S. has more than doubled. Congress must realize that, in the post-9/11, world, the United States simply cannot afford to have 10 million persons in the U.S. who are unknown to the government. Every citizen should write to his Member of Congress and tell them that he/she wants these people identified, fingerprinted, registered with the government, paying taxes and learning English.

    Whether or not the Congress enacts a guest worker program, the United
    States has another immigration problem that needs to be solved, and solved
    now. Our country is educating less scientists, engineers, doctors and nurses
    than we did when I graduated from law school in 1973. In the meantime, countries in Asia are graduating far more of these professional workers than does the U.S. Fortunately, many of these professional workers have been supplementing the U.S. workforce for the past 30 years. Unfortunately, during the past year, huge backlogs in our immigration system have developed, and many of the best and brightest of these professionals are choosing to stay at home. This does not bode well for our security and our industries.

    Our country is losing its manufacturing base. For example, the U.S.
    automobile industry is firing tens of thousands of U.S. workers and G.M. and Ford are edging ever-closer to bankruptcy. Why? Because the American public is choosing to buy automobiles produced by Japanese and German companies.

    Fortunately, thanks to the immigration of tens of thousands of Indian
    and Chinese engineers to the U.S., the top software, chip makers and
    biotech companies are still located in the U.S. But with our outdated
    immigration laws making it increasingly difficult for U.S. employers to hire talented foreign- born scientists and engineers, how long can America maintain its dominance in these industries? U.S. employers can vote with their feet the same as U.S. consumers. Make it impossible to bring a sufficient number of foreign-born engineers to the U.S., and Microsoft and Intel and other top U.S. companies will simply locate their new plants and hire their new engineers not in the U.S., but in India and China.

    Most of the bills pending before Congress would increase
    employment-based immigration to 290,000 annually. This would help insure that our country maintains its number one position in science and technology.





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  • pointlesswait
    01-08 09:40 AM
    Inclde this below ur signature???
    I have mailed mine!! "We Shall Overcome"

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    Current Status: Processing Jan 1 , 2000
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  • gcdeal
    07-11 12:35 PM
    I have sent in a request to Rochester and Democratic Chronicle to publish the report in their News paper. I sent a brief message with a link from NY times. I hope they publish them.





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  • sammyb
    10-01 08:25 PM
    that was close ... 1/21/05 ... enjoy ...

    Got the "Card Production ordered" Email.

    EB2, PD: 01/21/05.

    Good luck to all.

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  • Macaca
    10-17 07:28 AM
    Lou Dobbs Crusades Against Spitzer�s Driver�s License Plan for Illegal Immigrants (http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/17/nyregion/17dobbs.html) By NICHOLAS CONFESSORE | New York Times, October 17, 2007

    ALBANY, Oct. 16 � The CNN anchor Lou Dobbs calls Gov. Eliot Spitzer �a genius.� But not in a nice way.

    �I was being about as facetious as one could be,� Mr. Dobbs said in an interview Tuesday as he prepared for his nightly broadcast, �Lou Dobbs Tonight.� For the last nine days, the show has included discussion of Mr. Spitzer�s plan to allow illegal immigrants to apply for driver�s licenses.

    Mr. Dobbs, a pinstriped journalist turned populist crusader against illegal immigration, is not a fan.

    �It�s an abuse of power!� Mr. Dobbs thundered. �He is being absolutely irresponsible. When the governor of New York embarks on this kind of irresponsibility, it is national news as far as I�m concerned.�

    And when Mr. Dobbs � whose broadcast is CNN�s second-highest-rated show � speaks, many people listen. His relentless mockery of Mr. Spitzer�s decision has thrust the driver�s license policy onto the national stage, helping fuel an uproar not only among New Yorkers, but among national groups opposed to illegal immigration as well.

    As it happens, Mr. Dobbs was recovering from a tonsillectomy when Mr. Spitzer announced the policy on Sept. 21. But the anchorman went on the attack almost immediately after going back on the air Oct. 8, saying it was �hard to imagine what this governor is thinking.�

    It only took him another week to conclude that Mr. Spitzer, in fact, was not thinking at all. �This governor is a genius,� he proclaimed disgustedly on Monday. �An overwhelming majority of New York voters oppose the governor, but he refuses to back down.�

    With the television set on mute, the scrunch alone of Mr. Dobbs�s brow conveys his belief that Mr. Spitzer�s new policy is, possibly, the dumbest idea in the history of dumb ideas.

    �I think he�s definitely had an effect,� said State Senator Martin J. Golden, a Brooklyn Republican who was on Mr. Dobbs�s show on Sunday to denounce the plan. �Everybody�s chiming in. I get e-mails from across the country because of Lou Dobbs. I got an e-mail from a soldier in Iraq saying, �Go for it, Golden, keep it up.��

    Mr. Golden is one of several New York elected officials � most of them with more experience on New York 1 than on CNN � who have been recent guests on Mr. Dobbs�s show. Many have expressed support for proposals by state lawmakers to overturn the license policy or to deny funding for it.

    But not everyone who goes on gets supportive e-mail messages.

    Jos� M. Serrano, a Democratic state senator who represents parts of Manhattan and the Bronx, appeared with Mr. Golden to defend Mr. Spitzer�s policy, but found himself under a verbal barrage from both the host and his fellow guest. �Oh my goodness, that was something else,� Mr. Serrano said. �I think it was my first time on national television. I wound up debating both of them � Lou paid very little attention to Marty Golden and instead just kind of dug in on me.�

    This next morning, Mr. Serrano said, his office was bombarded with angry e-mail messages from around the country.

    �One guy wrote, �We will derail the illegal gravy train from within,�� he said. �I don�t really know what that means. Another person said, �Go back to Mexico, you�re obviously Mexican.�� (Mr. Serrano is from Puerto Rico.) �I�m not na�ve, but I was still surprised at the level of ignorance,� Mr. Serrano said.

    (Mr. Dobbs�s correspondents have also stated on the air that illegal immigrants will need only a foreign passport to obtain a driver�s license, and that Mr. Spitzer�s policy was instituted through executive order, neither of which is true.)

    Mr. Dobbs�s guests and interviewees are typically opponents of the policy. A segment that Mr. Dobbs pitched on Thursday as �a lively debate� on the issue, for example, featured the host and two members of the State Assembly who oppose the governor�s plan, along with a viewers� poll on whether Mr. Spitzer should be recalled. (Ninety-seven percent said yes.)

    One person who has not made an appearance on Mr. Dobbs�s show, despite repeated invitations, is the governor himself. Christine Anderson, a spokeswoman for Mr. Spitzer, said scheduling problems had prevented the governor from appearing. The administration had made other officials available to Mr. Dobbs�s bookers, she said, including Michael A. L. Balboni, the governor�s top Homeland Security aide. But the show�s producers had declined.

    �We don�t really have a position about his show,� Ms. Anderson said. �That said, facts matter, and what we have endeavored to do throughout this entire debate is to make an argument about the safety and security benefits to doing this.�

    But Mr. Dobbs said that Mr. Spitzer, and Mr. Spitzer alone, is responsible for defending his new policy.

    �The man hasn�t shown the gumption to come on the air and debate the issue with me,� Mr. Dobbs said.





    alterego
    10-15 09:36 PM
    Called one more time using the POJ method to NSC... This was probably the most fruitful call to NSC in the last 7-8 odd times i have called them.

    Someone called Terry answered the call... Hats off to this lady...If there is a way i would want to recommend this lady for a promotion and make her the project manager for all the rest of the IOs who answer the call!!!

    My case PD is 1/15/05, filed at TSC, transferred to NSC in Mar 08, applied AC 21 in Aug 08 and did biometrics in Feb 09.


    Information i received on my case from this call:

    1. This lady got my receipt#, checked details and history on my case, let me know that the case is preadjudicated (she defined preadjudication before that)

    2. and then, told me that the case is NOT in storage area.

    3. She mentioned that preadjudicated cases are held in an area called exams area and my case is currently on its way from exams area back to the officer who had preadjudicated my case earlier in Oct 2008.

    4. She then checked my wife's file to see if that is also with my case just to make sure that file is not lost etc and confirmed that both files are together.

    5. She also mentioned that nothing else needs to be done right now for my case as it is already on its way back to IO.


    Thanks to know that there is atleast one person at NSC who understands what we are going thru' and is willing to atleast provide some details...


    Good to hear that you got someone with good customer relation skills who was able to share some information you found useful.

    However, what she told you, you probably already knew. Her understanding of your situation is what made you feel good about the call. IN the end however, t is competence that matters. When the USCIS says FIFO and there are over 4 yr old 485 cases in the queue, you quickly realize that incompetence abounds.

    Lets not confuse sympathy with competence.





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